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- Industry: Insurance
- Company size: Self Employed
- Used Daily for 1-5 months
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- Likelihood to recommend 10.0 /10
THRYV is helping my business grow
Reviewed on 29/04/2021
Thryv and the staff has been amazing in helping me get my small business off the ground (during a...
Thryv and the staff has been amazing in helping me get my small business off the ground (during a ppandemic!). Every day I learn something new. I believe it is going to further assist in growing and maintaining my business.
Pros
Thryv is easy to set up and use. The training and customer service are the best I have found. They are very attentive, even reaching out to me to make sure I am getting the most from my system. I am so pleased that I can post to ALL my social media sites at once and set up my posts for the future. I am pleased that my birthday greetings are also automated and that I can schedule special "announcments" and campaigns.
Cons
There are some functions that I don't use in my business and I feel they clutter my dashboard.
Alternatives Considered
Salesforce Service CloudReasons for Switching to Thryv
I felt that Sales Force did not meet my needs and Thryv was the best value.Response from Thryv
Hi Neta, thank you for this review and for making our day! We are proud to hear that the Thryv software and team are helping you with your business. We always say it is the little things that impress your customers and the automated birthday shoutouts put that extra little touch to connecting with them. Whenever you need assistance, please call our Free 24-Hour Thryv Support line at 844-998-4798. - Gabe
- Industry: Consumer Services
- Company size: 11–50 Employees
- Used Daily for 2+ years
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- Likelihood to recommend 10.0 /10
I love Thryv
Reviewed on 6/07/2023
Thryv has made our social media marketing much easier. I wish we would have come aboard sooner.
Thryv has made our social media marketing much easier. I wish we would have come aboard sooner.
Pros
It was very easy to set up and integrate with our business. The customer service is outstanding. Every person I dealt with at Thryv was fantastic.
Cons
The only improvement I would ask for is a free e-mail scrubber. This is supposed to be coming in the near future.
Response from Thryv
Hi Matt, thank you for your review, we are excited to hear how Thryv has helped with your social media presence and how easy it was to integrate with your business. If you ever need assistance, please call our Free 24-Hour Thryv Support line at 844-998-4798. - Gabe
- Industry: Construction
- Company size: 11–50 Employees
- Used Weekly for 6-12 months
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Cancellation is impossible
Reviewed on 2/01/2024
Not worth the money.
Customer service is great when buying but unresponsive when canceling
Not worth the money.
Customer service is great when buying but unresponsive when canceling
Pros
Website looked professional and easy to use.
Cons
Unable to cancel after several attempts. Still being charged 5 months after cancellation letter was received.
Response from Thryv
Hi Susan, I am sorry to hear about your experience with Thryv. If you could, email [email protected] with your account and any other details you would like to provide. I can send this to our Executive Claims team for further assistance. - Gabe
- Industry: Banking
- Company size: 11–50 Employees
- Used Weekly for 1+ year
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- Likelihood to recommend 10.0 /10
Power in the palm of your hand
Reviewed on 11/07/2023
Pros
Overseeing marketing can be an arduous task, but Thryv really works to streamline the continual multi-channel blasts that are needed in the current internet age. Inbound, Outbound, anywhere, anytime, you can access your full customer base from laptop or smartphone.
Cons
Learning any new software and transferring a client list can seem like a scary subject and may take more time than anything else, but Thryv offers resources from videos and articles or even step-by-step phone walkthroughs
Response from Thryv
Hi Austin, thank you for your review. It's fantastic to see how Thryv has helped your business by streamlining your social media presence and helping organize your customer's information to make it easier to interact with them. If you need assistance, please call our Free 24-Hour Thryv Support team at 844-998-4798. -Gabe
- Industry: Real Estate
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Daily for 1+ year
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- Likelihood to recommend 8.0 /10
real estate and financial services
Reviewed on 6/07/2023
Pros
the appointment confirmations and automated campaigns are what I find most beneficial.
Cons
Can't believe that you cancelled the "work as" function. We are in two time zones and trying to schedule an appointment in the other time zone is painful. Only admins can login as other staff members so an ordinary function that anyone could do now falls on my plate. No sooner than I set the appointment, log out and back in as myself here comes another call and I get to do it all over again. After I have done this several times the system makes me go through the authentication process with a six digit code.
Response from Thryv
Hi Jeff, thank you for your review and feedback. If you could, can you email [email protected] with your account information and any other details? I want to send this to our team for further assistance. - Gabe
- Industry: Medical Practice
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Daily for 1-5 months
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SCAM COMPANY
Reviewed on 19/01/2021
Terrible.
1. I was 100% lied to.... I was told this was a month to month and could cancel at any...
Terrible.
1. I was 100% lied to.... I was told this was a month to month and could cancel at any time. I cancelled after the first month for them failing to deliver anything at all and they charged me again 4 times in 3 days and claim I'm stuck with a 6 month contract!
2. I was told it would take 1 week to be up an running, took over a month and was still terrible and most features still don't work.
Pros
Nothing, it was terrible. Everything I was promised were all lies
Cons
Everything.
1. No traffic actually comes to your website, everything goes through a proxy fake version of your site
2. You have no say so in how your ads look or what message they deliver. They system picks random images and matches them with sentence fragments that make no sense.
3. The tracking is extremely flawed and cannot be confirmed in any way.
Response from Thryv
Hi James, we are deeply sorry to hear about your experience with Thryv, we take this very seriously, and will do better. My team let me know that they were able to talk with you and were able to come to an agreement. Again, we deeply apologize and wish you the best. - Gabe
- Industry: Arts & Crafts
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Daily for 1-5 months
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Expensive, glitchy and no help
Reviewed on 6/06/2023
- The cost is astronomical - they don’t mention that you don’t get all of the “extras” like...
- The cost is astronomical - they don’t mention that you don’t get all of the “extras” like Thryvpay when you signup. - had to pay per team member plus a monthly fee - there was no free trial - there was an onboarding fee for $400 (I never got to be fully onboarded and they refused to refund it)Customer Service - their onboarding specialists are only available during business hours EST - their onboarding specialists didn’t know how to use the program. They only showed me things I could’ve figured out on my own and when there was an issue, they said they’d “look in it and get back to me” which they never did. - Upon cancelling I was told that that it was a six month term and they would not refund me for the $400 and month I wasted trying to get the software to work and the most they could do was not charge my card again.Don’t bother looking at Thryv as an option. It’s expensive and useless!
Pros
This was supposed to be a solution to having 10 different apps instead it malfunctioned and glitched.
Cons
-The features didn't work or were lacking functionality - The competitor watch wouldn't load after adding in competitors - the social media management didn't have the capacity to crop photos - the calendar wouldn't load - my emails weren't going into my inbox - had to pay per team member plus a monthly fee - there was no free trial - there was an onboarding fee for $400 (I never got to be onboarded and they refused to refund it) - their onboarding specialists are only available during business hours EST
Response from Thryv
Hi Chelsea, we are sorry to hear about your experience with Thryv. If you would like to send an email to [email protected] with your account and any other details, I can send this to our team for further assistance. - Gabe
- Industry: Apparel & Fashion
- Company size: 11–50 Employees
- Used Weekly for 1-5 months
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- Likelihood to recommend 10.0 /10
Thryv for Small Businesses is a MUST
Reviewed on 23/08/2023
Thryv has made my small business so much easier to run the simple little tedious tasks are so much...
Thryv has made my small business so much easier to run the simple little tedious tasks are so much easier to deal with it's a must for small businesses.
Pros
Thryv makes my daily work at my business so much simpler and way easier to manage.
Cons
There's nothing to dislike about thryv it's amazing software that makes any small businesses work half is hard.
Response from Thryv
Thank you for your review and for choosing Thryv, Ashley. We are excited to see how Thryv has made your day-to-day go much easier. - Gabe
- Industry: Construction
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Daily for 6-12 months
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- Likelihood to recommend 10.0 /10
Excellent company & service
Reviewed on 14/07/2023
Pros
They have 24/7 service and always get back to you with any issue you have!
Cons
Better work with social media and google!
Response from Thryv
Hi Beth, thank you for your kind words, we pride ourselves on our support teams and it is great to see it at work! - Gabe
- Industry: Professional Training & Coaching
- Company size: Self Employed
- Used Daily for 6-12 months
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- Likelihood to recommend 10.0 /10
Thryv Keeps me on track
Reviewed on 8/07/2023
Pros
I love the scheduling function as well as the automated reminders as well as the ease in sending out newsletters
Cons
It would be nice to have a pipeline function
Response from Thryv
Hi Nicholas, thank you for your review and choosing Thryv, we are glad to hear it is helping you stay more organized and communicate with your customers more efficiently. If you ever need assistance, please let us know. - Gabe
- Industry: Professional Training & Coaching
- Company size: Self Employed
- Used Daily for 1+ year
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- Likelihood to recommend 10.0 /10
Are you a small business looking to thrive? Then you need Thryv!
Reviewed on 11/02/2023
I L-O-V-E using Thryv! I am your #1 fan.
I L-O-V-E using Thryv! I am your #1 fan.
Pros
As a Leadership Coach, I am focused on helping my clients to remove obstacles so that they can be successful. Thryv does just this in my business. It offers me so many services in one package that frees up my time to focus on my clients. Thryv allows me to work smarter, not harder.
Cons
The software - nothing. The price point is hard for small businesses. When you are a solopreneur, with a single employee (a.k.a. yourself), it is hard to make a monthly payment of $300-500 / month. Is it worth it? A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-T-Y!! I wish there were leveled pricing plans.
Alternatives Considered
Calendly, Google Docs, Adobe Acrobat Reader, Google Workspace, Trello, WordPress, Zoom Events and Webinars, Jotform, Canva and AsanaReasons for Switching to Thryv
Ease of having one platform to integrate one "job" in one place.Response from Thryv
Hi Renee, WOW thank you so much for your raving review, we truly appreciate it. We are so excited to see that your investment in Thryv is paying off and you are seeing a difference in your business. If you ever need assistance, please call our Free 24-Hour Thryv Support line at 844-998-4798. - Gabe
- Industry: Hospitality
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Daily for 1+ year
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- Likelihood to recommend 10.0 /10
RWFE Thryver
Reviewed on 6/05/2022
My overall experience with Thryv has been great we just got a new account rep and he is wonderful...
My overall experience with Thryv has been great we just got a new account rep and he is wonderful however the gentleman who sold us the software was very good as well we like them both.
Pros
The ease inability to get contracts signed and hold the date fees paid without using US mail. Being able to share the calendar with colleagues. And the communication between us in the client is one thread of messaging which makes it easy to not lose information.
Cons
It would be good to be able to send information from a portal to multiple parties. In our instance often times were talking to a bride and the groom or the bride and her parents who typically pay for the wedding event and services. Right now I have to set up two separate accounts.
Alternatives Considered
PrismmReasons for Switching to Thryv
Brendan Quinn and I met and he gave me a walk-through the software and he made it very easy to understand.Response from Thryv
Hi Gina, thank you for your review! We are excited that your experience with Thryv has been going great. Excited to see that communicating has become easier. Also, your suggestion is a great idea, I will send this to our team for them to look into! If you ever need assistance, please call our Free 24-Hour Thryv Support line at 844-998-4798. - Gabe
- Industry: Information Technology & Services
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Daily for 6-12 months
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- Likelihood to recommend 10.0 /10
Better CRM than Hubspot
Reviewed on 14/07/2023
Excellent.
Excellent.
Pros
CRM functionality is easy and powerful.
Cons
Only thing I can think of is some additional customizability on the different kinds of clients.
Response from Thryv
Hi Paul, thank you for your review. It is great to see how Thryv has helped you stay more organized with your clients through our CRM. If you ever need assistance, please call our Free 24-Hour Thryv Support line 844-998-4798. - Gabe
- Industry: Building Materials
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Daily for 1-5 months
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- Likelihood to recommend 0.0 /10
Don't work don't waist your time I spend around 3,000 and never have any potential clients
Reviewed on 31/10/2023
Never recommend this company just waisted Time and money
Never recommend this company just waisted Time and money
Pros
Nothing sucks I spend money on marketing center and still have money there and you don't want me to give me the money back
Cons
Everything is bad doesn't works bad quality
Response from Thryv
Hi Jorge, we are sorry to hear about your experience with Thryv. If you could, send an email to [email protected] with your account information and any other details. I can send this to our Executive Claims team for further assistance. - Gabe
- Industry: Accounting
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Daily for 6-12 months
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- Likelihood to recommend 7.0 /10
Review of Thryv
Reviewed on 11/07/2023
Pros
Combined contact info and calendar. Implementation was easy.
Cons
We don't need a lot. Maybe just have additional space for more customer information.
Response from Thryv
Hi Chris, thank you for your review. It is always exciting to hear how the implementation of Thryv with your business was easy. If you ever need assistance, please let us know! - Gabe
- Industry: Real Estate
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Weekly for 1+ year
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- Likelihood to recommend 10.0 /10
Thryv is my google, website and social media partner
Reviewed on 11/07/2023
Pros
From the local Account Manager, [sensitive content hidden]
, to their onboarding and tech support, we value the investment we've made with Thryv.
Cons
We don't use all of their features as we have our own CRM
Response from Thryv
Hi Chad, thank you for your review, it is great to hear how Thryv is helping your business, and worth the investment. If you ever need assistance, please let us know! - Gabe
- Industry: Construction
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Daily for 1+ year
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- Likelihood to recommend 10.0 /10
All in one Software
Reviewed on 13/02/2023
Great overall experience. Customer service is very good with helping understand the program. I...
Great overall experience. Customer service is very good with helping understand the program. I really like the full capability of it and i am excited to continue to learn more. Its also good to see Thryv continuously updating and changing things for the better.
Pros
The software has been great for my business. It has really been helpful to bring the full customer service management all into one. I love the scheduling part and being able to automatically send reminders about the appointments and thanking them afterwards. There are a lot of great tools that can be set up and automatically go out. Email campaigns are another good one.
Cons
There are a few minor components with invoicing and having one customer wit multiple addresses and all. Seems like Thryv is listening and trying to correct things as they come about.
Response from Thryv
Hi Richie, thank you for your review. We are excited to hear that Thryv is making it easier for your business to have everything in one place and making it easier to communicate with your customers. We also appreciate the feedback on how we can improve, we will make sure to take this back to our team. - Gabe
- Industry: Construction
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Monthly for 1+ year
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- Likelihood to recommend 0.0 /10
Garbage service
Reviewed on 9/03/2023
trash. like throwing money down toilet
trash. like throwing money down toilet
Pros
Nothing there was absolutely nothing I liked bout it. $3600 into it and $2700 more to go with $0 return. not even 1 phone call.
Cons
They took me money with no returns. when I tried to cancel they said I had to pay for more moths even though i didn't sign a contract for longer than 1 year. would not recommend or return to this company.
Response from Thryv
Hi Benjamin, we apologize that your experience with Thryv has not been the best. If you would like to send an email to [email protected] with your account information and any other details, I will be able to send this to our Executive Claims team for further assistance. - Gabe
- Industry: Transportation/Trucking/Railroad
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Daily for 1+ year
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- Likelihood to recommend 0.0 /10
You do not keep the website you pay them to build
Reviewed on 15/02/2023
3 different sales people, 2 managers - a complete sh_t show from day one
3 different sales people, 2 managers - a complete sh_t show from day one
Pros
good platform, but only if your a boiler-plate industry. Zero ability to understand a unique business and translate forward to customers
Cons
poor to decent. they really want you to spend the time customize what they cannot execute on...Ads are a big problem
Response from Thryv
Hi Stuart, we are sorry to hear that your experience with Thryv has not been the best. If you are experiencing any issues, please reach out to our Thryv Support team, you can reach them at 844-998-4798. - Gabe
- Industry: Wine & Spirits
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Weekly for 1-5 months
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- Likelihood to recommend 10.0 /10
Small business big marketing
Reviewed on 20/02/2023
Sales rep, [sensitive content hidden] is INCREDIBLE
Sales rep, [sensitive content hidden] is INCREDIBLE
Pros
It presents a small business in a big business way! Saves time, money and represents us beautifully
Cons
Still trying to figure some things out but thankfully there is support
Response from Thryv
Hi Laurie, thank you for your review. We are glad to hear that Thryv is helping you save time and money. We understand there can be a lot to learn with the software, if you ever need assistance please call our Free 24-Hour Thryv Support line at 844-998-4798. - Gabe
- Industry: Photography
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Daily for 1+ year
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- Likelihood to recommend 10.0 /10
I run my business on the go!
Reviewed on 2/03/2021
Overall I Love the system.
Overall I Love the system.
Pros
The software is very easy to use and allows me to manage my team and business from anywhere.
Cons
It doesn't allow me to add multiple email recipients when booking appointments
Response from Thryv
Hi James, thank you for taking the time out of your busy day to leave us a review. We are thrilled to hear that Thryv can help you whether you are in an office or on the go.
Yes, at this time it is a one-to-one relationship now, but we are always looking at improving their experience in Thryv. We use the Thryv Feedback channel to gauge the need for functionality, and can add you to the Feedback request and they will receive all updates for it.
If you need any assistance, please call our Free 24-Hour Thryv Support line at 844-998-4798. - Gabe
- Industry: Construction
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Daily for 1+ year
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- Likelihood to recommend 10.0 /10
Great overall software that offers a lot of value!
Reviewed on 27/04/2021
It's been great! I recommend it to every small business owner that I come across. They built a very...
It's been great! I recommend it to every small business owner that I come across. They built a very functional website that drives lots of business to me. This is well worth the investment.
Pros
Overall I love this software and all of its abilities. This is like anything you will get out of it what ever you put into it. I use this software all day everyday. I appreciate how more features are added without the cost going up. I feel like someone (Thryv) is really out to help small businesses manage their information and use it in a way to grow and better communicate with their customers.
Cons
The mobile version and table version sometimes are downright slow. I am on the road all day and rarely behind a computer. I would love to see improvements on the mobile and tablet app speed (When full bars at 4G or 2-4 bars of 5G). It's embarrassing to be in front of a customer and for it to take more than 1 minute for the app to load, and sometimes it takes much longer than that. I would like the ability to upload and edit pictures straight from the Thryv app, and not have to separately upload them from the gallery which takes too long.
Response from Thryv
Hi Nick, Wow! Thank you for leaving this great review and feedback. It is great to hear that you are getting the value out of Thryv by using it every day.
Thryv will continue to evolve and will continue to improve our App. To stay up to date, you can leave a suggestion in your Thryv Dashboard and follow the topic. You will notifications when updates have occurred. For any other assistance, please call our 24-Hour Thryv Support line at 844-998-4798. - Gabe
- Industry: Insurance
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Daily for 1+ year
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- Likelihood to recommend 8.0 /10
Simplifies
Reviewed on 30/06/2022
The customer service/training is second to none! I had to take the time, but the small 1 hour...
The customer service/training is second to none! I had to take the time, but the small 1 hour trainings over a 3-4 week period was perfect for our implementation. We knew how to use all of its capabilities.
Pros
A great tool that is fairly easy to use. I love that all of my Social media can be engaged with one entry. I love the interaction i get with my customers. They can engage me in multiple ways.
Cons
It does not download from IVANS. To be Ideal for an Insurance agency i feel the download capability is pretty important. That is all that this system is missing in my opinion.
Alternatives Considered
EZLynxReasons for Choosing Thryv
I didn't know how to use AMS360.Switched From
Vertafore AMS360Reasons for Switching to Thryv
Social media engagement and website supportResponse from Thryv
Hey Matt, thank you so much for your review! It is always great to hear how communicating and working with your clients is easier with Thryv.
Thank you for your feedback as well. I will make sure to send this to our team for them to look into. If you ever need assistance, please call our Free 24-Hour Thryv Support line at 844-998-4798. - Gabe
- Industry: Construction
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Daily for 1+ year
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- Likelihood to recommend 9.0 /10
Our business is Thryving!
Reviewed on 7/10/2022
The orders we capture by using Thryv versus what would have slipped through the cracks without it...
The orders we capture by using Thryv versus what would have slipped through the cracks without it tells me that not only is the system paying for itself, it’s actually generating income.
Pros
I love the dashboard. It’s the pulse of our company. At a glance you can see where you are, where you’re headed and where you’ve been. Filtering makes it easy if you want to see what’s been approved, expiring, needs attention, etc.
Cons
I think the reporting could use a facelift. You can export numbers but I’d like to see a feature with customizable graphs and charts.
Reasons for Switching to Thryv
Do a demo and you’ll see why.Response from Thryv
Wow, Kevin, thank you so much for your review! It is amazing to hear how Thryv has helped your business. If you ever need assistance, please call our Free 24-Hour Thryv Support line at 844-998-4798. - Gabe
- Industry: Management Consulting
- Company size: 2–10 Employees
- Used Daily for 6-12 months
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- Likelihood to recommend 10.0 /10
Our buiness has bounced forward
Reviewed on 16/06/2020
The level of customer support Thryv offers is important on an average business day and during this...
The level of customer support Thryv offers is important on an average business day and during this time of rapid change, the importance of client communication and the continuation of prospecting, it is crucial.
I wanted you to be aware of our high level of satisfaction, the appreciation of each interaction we've had with customer support personnel and their skill-level to help us, efficiently and the customer support culture and level of Thryv customer support.
Pros
Streamlining of client communications, scheduling and retention of client contact information. The visibility to the sells process, which has allowed us to be improve our process. The integration of the online portal/app with our website, sells process and ability to manage all of this, including social posts, marketing campaigns and online presence in on place. The ability to have several seats in the system for employees or subcontractors.
Cons
Social Content, the posting feature for LinkedIn only posts to our company page and I have to take an additional step to post to my personal LinkedIn page. Knowing where each logo and size of logo feeds to within Thryv.
Response from Thryv
Hi Julie, thanks for the great review! I'm happy that you and your team at Ashmore Consulting have had such a great experience with our platform and with our Support Team! I'm sorry about your social content issue. Since Thryv is intended to control the social profiles for the business, we unfortunately don't post to multiple accounts for LinkedIn, only the company LinkedIn page. For the logo, it can be added in Business Settings. It'll be at the top of every email correspondence to clients for branding purposes. And it'll be on estimates, invoices and the client portal. I hope this helps! -Chandlor